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“is turnout versus persuasion. I would argue it is a false…” — Pod Save America at 1:02:24

“is turnout versus persuasion. I would argue it is a false choice, but certainly in a campaign, you have a finite number of resources and you have to allocate them in the way you think is most likely to help you win. How did you guys think about that kind of allocation and whether you need to just turn out the base or…”

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