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“Yeah, I think, obviously I agree that it's kind of a false…” — Pod Save America at 1:04:50

“Yeah, I think, obviously I agree that it's kind of a false choice. And we were dealing with, in New York, you're capped on what you can spend because of public matching funds. And so we were just getting $8 million, which is nice. But in the New York media market, it goes very quickly. And we had about $45 million…”

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