“And I think, too, one thing that's really important…” — Pod Save America at 1:14:43
“And I think, too, one thing that's really important, because I agree, I'm not big on the labels. I know I've always thought of Abigail as a pragmatist. She's been put into moderate or centrist buckets before, but I always thought of her as a steady pragmatist. But I think one thing that's different this cycle that…”
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