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“And it's like, yep, this is the game. By the way, inside…” — The Vergecast at 20:29

The Vergecast How Epstein became a tech influencer

“And it's like, yep, this is the game. By the way, inside baseball journalism, we obviously asked everybody for comment. Nobody's commenting. You know, we don't let PR people be on background. We don't let them be anonymous. So Tom went to Sanofsky. Sanofsky declined, sent us to his crisis PR company, Hiltzik…”

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