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“a kind of commercial company, a tech company, I would…” — The Pragmatic Engineer at 55:26

“a kind of commercial company, a tech company, I would assume that in order to make this work, oh, for 4,000 developers, we probably need to hire 400 PMs. We'll have about, for every 50 developers, we'll have about 80 TPMs. This is how it would run. You're laughing. No, I've been there. You've been there, but I only…”

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