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“which I think it will be no matter what. Here's the…” — Pod Save America at 34:45

“which I think it will be no matter what. Here's the exercise I went through. I was like, put the polling and the politics aside for a second. It's like, what do I want to hear from 2028 presidential candidates, one of whom will hopefully be in a position to decide what happens to ICE? And I will say, to the first…”

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