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“It makes less sense to do now when, to me, the most…” — Pod Save America at 38:42

“It makes less sense to do now when, to me, the most important thing is to figure out how to stop ICE from terrorizing our cities right now. And I think the most important thing for 2028 and the race we're going to have in 2028 is to lay out a vision of humane immigration enforcement and what that would look like. The…”

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