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“His overarching message, quote, frameworkism isn't…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 1:23

“His overarching message, quote, frameworkism isn't delivering. The answer isn't a different tool. It's the courage to do engineering, end quote. I have been preaching similar things around these parts basically forever, not against frameworks per se, but against the belief that the next framework will deliver us from…”

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