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“We chase it at work or on teams. We're trying to reach a…” — Mountainview Church Audio at 3:42

“We chase it at work or on teams. We're trying to reach a level of status or maybe accumulate followers. Full disclosure that I've chased it too. I might be out on the river and I search for it in how I fish or where I fish, or maybe here in the studio through a piece of content. I'm just catching myself sometimes…”

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