“and yet also impulsive in many key moments. And so it's…” — Sidebar at 20:05
“and yet also impulsive in many key moments. And so it's sort of that balance between methodically and deliberately deciding we have to get NATO together and calling a meeting and going in there with very clear goals of who he wanted to meet with and what he wanted to talk about and what sorts of things they wanted to…”
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