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“Whatever, prison abolition. There's a part of us that…” — Pod Save America at 28:01

“Whatever, prison abolition. There's a part of us that demands justice and that wants someone like this thrown away for fucking ever. But I think part of the deeper thing is like... Also, prison abolition is crazy. I'm just going to say that. It's crazy. You murder someone, you're going to keep them away from people.…”

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