“I have actually like I used to think, yes, of course, we…” — Pod Save America at 41:33
“I have actually like I used to think, yes, of course, we should switch to permanent daylight saving time. That used to be my position. I really dug into it for a while. I did a lot of interviews, did a lot of did a lot of reading about it. And I have a more nuanced view on it, which is basically it's not a surprise…”
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