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“argued with him that, you know, you really were the…” — Pod Save America at 54:09

“argued with him that, you know, you really were the beneficiary of a lot of government investment. And why it matters is not for Elon to say just for Elon, but it has this view that, oh, you can just be an entrepreneur and that's what's fueling America. No, what's fueled America is the combination of very strong…”

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