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“costs. Maybe we get some consensus on the rate of premium…” — Pod Save America at 1:07:49

“costs. Maybe we get some consensus on the rate of premium hikes. But I think you can have a North Star and then work incrementally for progress towards it. Yeah, I wish I could say that I expressed it more succinctly or at least more compellingly. But a lot of people are mad at me for how I've talked about it. And…”

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