“No, I do think that is part of it. I think I think it's a…” — Pod Save America at 27:54
“No, I do think that is part of it. I think I think it's a few things. I think one of it, right, is that if justifying sticking with Joe Biden, given the polls and the debate performance is difficult, I think actually coming to believe in a caricature of Kamala Harris is sort of a useful psychological defense. I think…”
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