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“That ultimately, but all of them are, Ted Kaufman, are…” — Pod Save America at 38:37

“That ultimately, but all of them are, Ted Kaufman, are incredibly smart, politically astute people, right? Who love Joe Biden, love his family, are proud of everything he's done. By the way, 99.9% of Democrats are as well. But I don't know what tips that for those people who are close to him in his life and his…”

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