“Yes. And I think that's true. And I don't want to pretend…” — Pod Save America at 8:09
“Yes. And I think that's true. And I don't want to pretend that that's not real because I think people, when they're mad or upset or their stakes are high, they go right to saying, oh, you're not really being honest. Let's trust that a chunk of those people are being sincere. Then there are other people that are being…”
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