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“You know, look, it is, I think, a true piece of…” — Pod Save America at 12:37

“You know, look, it is, I think, a true piece of conventional wisdom that foreign policy like NATO is not going to be the place where a Democrat wins the presidency. So it is quite a twist to then use NATO to frame domestic policy as well. But I do. I love NATO. I'm like almost Tommy level nerd on this stuff. But…”

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