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“And one way, if that is your actual position, what you…” — Pod Save America at 3:27

“And one way, if that is your actual position, what you could say is, I'm going to find $14 billion in largely inoffensive bipartisan cuts, raising custom fees, finding unused money here, fraud, waste, and abuse, all the sort of budget money that's out there. Gimmicks. Gimmicks, really. But that's a way to do it that…”

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