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“You are someone who is a little bit of a fireman, that…” — Acht Milliarden: Der Auslands-Podcast des SPIEGEL at 25:32

“You are someone who is a little bit of a fireman, that means that everywhere, where it burns, is not far away. Is it something that you surprised me, that you tell me about it, that you tell me about it, that the soldiers their prisoners are going to do it? Or is that something that you actually already know about…”

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