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“UI designer. And there is a sense that like, thank God we…” — The Vergecast at 26:22

“UI designer. And there is a sense that like, thank God we are going to put the UI back in the hands of somebody who makes UI. Instead of Alan Dye, who was like, he was a package designer, right? Alan Dye is a designer, not a UI guy. And there's a very different things in a lot of ways. And there is a sense of like…”

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