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“I would say fairly clearly Meta does not have, right? That…” — The Vergecast at 37:44

“I would say fairly clearly Meta does not have, right? That like, if you want to build a great design program, you should hire somebody from Apple, right? Like they just, that company understands how to make design central to work. We just said all their designs suck. I mean, I didn't say all their software designs…”

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