“the biggest step, which is you need, the material needs to…” — SmartLess at 16:44
“the biggest step, which is you need, the material needs to be there. Otherwise, what are you doing? And people just kind of skip over it. Isn't that at odds sometimes, James, when, especially in the big tentpole stuff that you guys do there at DC, where you have to like put your flag down on the ground with a date…”
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