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“put hooks and chairs in their way, they say, oh, well, it…” — Cato Audio at 28:45

“put hooks and chairs in their way, they say, oh, well, it all has to happen in California, and I'm not going to vote for it. If you don't have a cosmopolitan economic ethic, which is what we're talking about here, there are a whole bunch of innovations and investments that are just not going to happen.”

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