“saw Vance as someone who he could punch at because he felt…” — Sidebar at 19:58
“saw Vance as someone who he could punch at because he felt like he couldn't hit a Trump, but he couldn't advance. And then Trump came to Vance's defense and it kind of blew up into this big thing. But I think that that, when you talk to MAGA world, that like Dunn Jr. loves JD, Dunn Jr. more than anyone else is why JD…”
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