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“tie himself close to Trump, went over the MAGA crowd. And…” — Sidebar at 27:33

“tie himself close to Trump, went over the MAGA crowd. And right now, I think that's that's his game. It's not be liked or popular. And in some ways, looking like a fighter will endear him to the very people he will need, including Trump, to become the Republican nominee. And it's sort of I mean, those numbers are…”

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