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“They always voted no. And so they were sort of irrelevant…” — Sidebar at 4:24

Sidebar JD Vance and the shutdown dance

“They always voted no. And so they were sort of irrelevant in some ways, because Republican leaders from John Boehner to Paul Ryan to Mike Johnson, Kevin McCarthy would have to go find some moderate Democrats or give stuff to Democrats to get them on board. Now, all of a sudden, if you can get the Republicans on…”

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