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“what court does that ends up in front of, right? It's like…” — Pod Save America at 25:10

“what court does that ends up in front of, right? It's like a lot of this is like how much power he ultimately has also depends on how much the right-wing court is willing to step into the fray. And then more broadly, like this is part, there's like a, there's a, like a lot of this will be about what Congress does.…”

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