“John very kindly said I'm a guy who likes to debate. I do.…” — Pod Save America at 12:20
“John very kindly said I'm a guy who likes to debate. I do. That was not a debate. You can't moderate a debate if you're not moderating. There has to be some kind of fact-checking. Donald Trump can't say, hey, they're trying to kill babies in Virginia, and then you go, thank you. Over to you, Joe. I just don't. I…”
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