“First of all, I'm all for joy. Like I loved the beginning…” — Pod Save America at 44:12
“First of all, I'm all for joy. Like I loved the beginning of the Harris candidacy because she was just half, like it was such a good moment. It was a reprieve from the just apocalyptic doomsday scenario. We now find ourselves in again. And when he's having fun, when he's smiling, you can't help but smile. Having said…”
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