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“Obviously, I think he's a huge net positive out there.…” — Pod Save America at 48:06

“Obviously, I think he's a huge net positive out there. He's a great communicator. He does a lot for signaling to the entire party how to talk about things. And he did that in 2020 with Trump a lot. And then in 2022, he did a similar thing about how he's the best messenger in terms of distilling the argument and then…”

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