“Of course, we should care about this kind of thing. I…” — Pod Save America at 1:04:30
“Of course, we should care about this kind of thing. I guess I step back for a second, John. One of the things that's troubled me, I mean, it's that I'm still incredulous about it. It's hard to be incredulous about anything now, perhaps in American politics. But how I have a lot of Ukrainians in Ohio and they've…”
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