“No, I can't. I can't. He becomes quite a natural. He's…” — Serial Chillers Podcast at 32:10
“No, I can't. I can't. He becomes quite a natural. He's actually quite charming. Again, he worked in politics. He was like, essentially the politician needed something set up. He needed an event. He needed someone to rent out a hall. He needed someone to get them a caravan of vehicles. John was like the coordinator…”
0:00
2:38:39