“By 1965, he is now the VP of the Springfield Jaycees and…” — Serial Chillers Podcast at 36:42
“By 1965, he is now the VP of the Springfield Jaycees and the third most outstanding Jaycee in all of Illinois. I like how they rank them. They're like, oh, you're number three. It's podium. So good job, John. I guess that time the hot tub was ruined. I'm number 17. Shut up. You're not the top 10. You're not allowed…”
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