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“It's kind of like, you know, like some inmates go and…” — Serial Chillers Podcast at 56:34

“It's kind of like, you know, like some inmates go and they're like, well, I just want to get my high school diploma or I'm going to go to college in prison. It's kind of like that. It's like, oh, you know, you're not going to be here forever. I like to imagine all the gang leaders. What's that? All the prison gang…”

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