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“Sorry, other way around. He's in Illinois now. He's on…” — Serial Chillers Podcast at 1:04:11

“Sorry, other way around. He's in Illinois now. He's on parole in Iowa. He got permission to move, started a new company. But the first one, he was still there, right? Well, no, because he was with his wife. The one he gets arrested for and goes to prison for, he's in Waterloo, Iowa at the time. So he moves back to…”

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