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“It's never diagnosed officially, but a doctor tells his…” — Serial Chillers Podcast at 13:38

“It's never diagnosed officially, but a doctor tells his parents and himself, like, you need to avoid sports at all costs. You have a heart condition. His dad said, get out in the yard and run laps. So this is, a lot of reports say this is actually, like, one of the reasons John Sr. was, like, super against his sons.…”

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