“Sometimes when it is, it's in forms that we maybe don't…” — Cato Audio at 20:50
“Sometimes when it is, it's in forms that we maybe don't want to encourage. And so he put real effort into finding that talent. And then, and this was my experience with him when he hired me out of law school. He didn't reach out to me. I just applied and I had no history of, I'd done nothing. I had not volunteered…”
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