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“and so on, it really is, well, it's life-changing for many…” — Cato Audio at 23:34

“and so on, it really is, well, it's life-changing for many people. And the fact that he never thought that he was above other people in this regard, I think is a character trait worthy of emulation. There was no job that somehow he was above. There was no person that he felt he was superior to in this regard. And so…”

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