“I don't think there's anything he enjoyed more than simply…” — Cato Audio at 27:59
“I don't think there's anything he enjoyed more than simply wrestling with ideas, bouncing ideas off of someone, refining them, seeing where it went. It was just, he loved it. Let me say something in relation to that with regards to David as a manager. Because David was my friend first before I worked at the Cato…”
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