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“Well, my first graphic novel, Caleb, was Open Borders, The…” — Cato Audio at 1:54

“Well, my first graphic novel, Caleb, was Open Borders, The Science and Ethics of Immigration. And honestly, that book was a New York Times bestseller. Combined with it, it was really fun to do. So it's put two things together. It was really successful. And I had a ball actually creating the book. So that made me…”

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