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“Nolan Gray, you have dug into the history of a lot of this…” — Cato Audio at 5:54

“Nolan Gray, you have dug into the history of a lot of this in your book. How did we get here? Yeah, well, thanks for having me, Caleb, and thanks, Brian, for writing this great graphic novel. Thank you. You know, I think a lot of people have a sort of comforting narrative about zoning. Okay, we had these issues of…”

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