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“Right, and that's probably why, actually no one knows more…” — Cato Audio at 14:24

“Right, and that's probably why, actually no one knows more than I do, that a lot of the reforms we're seeing at the state level where they're actually taking it out of the hands of local communities. I know there's probably a lot of Cato fans who really love localism, but I think it is quite overrated in a lot of…”

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