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“you know, defense tried to play the other side of Michael…” — Sidebar at 4:05

“you know, defense tried to play the other side of Michael Cohen. Okay. I know he's coming off as this, uh, cool, calm and collected guy right now who seems, you know, to have turned a new leaf or that's what he wants you to think. But look, listen to his podcast, look into all these things. This is a guy trying to…”

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