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“you know, the crime and looking at the evidence and…” — Sidebar at 16:07

“you know, the crime and looking at the evidence and assessing the witness. But yeah, you don't want to like, you know, I think the juries, you don't want the judge to get mad at you too many times. Right. Because you're journeying out of the information you have to share. Absolutely. Losing the forest in the trees.…”

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