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“I just think it's I think the purpose of or the benefit of…” — Pod Save America at 49:26

“I just think it's I think the purpose of or the benefit of someone like Obama speaking out and others is it starts making others feel like, OK, maybe maybe I should say he said something. Maybe I should say something. And then maybe someone else, you know, like it's start. Yeah, it's starting to give people cover.…”

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