“you know, this sort of liberal world order needs to be…” — Pod Save America at 1:08:41
“you know, this sort of liberal world order needs to be replaced for the U.S.' purposes with more of a U.S.-centered, ideally economic and security block. And we want to have high levels of free trade with allies in that block, but we would like to see overall trade within that block balanced. So we are overall both…”
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