“What does a version of this that you would think is…” — Pod Save America at 1:20:20
“What does a version of this that you would think is working well look like? Well, we just talked about a piece of it, which is phasing things in. I think the phasing makes an enormous difference in minimizing the cost because basically what you're saying is you want the costs that you're imposing are intended to be…”
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