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“in a long time. And that has actually come a very, very…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 34:57

“in a long time. And that has actually come a very, very long way. Ubuntu Desktop, I think, is probably the closest contender to a non-Mac OS operating system that's fun to play with GUI. Now, albeit I have not explored like Pop! OS and others, I just haven't had a... You only test things that you're curious about. I…”

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