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“It's a fact. It's a fact, yeah. Okay. Well, it's a fact…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 4:17

“It's a fact. It's a fact, yeah. Okay. Well, it's a fact, but was it a burn as well? A burn? I don't know about that. A pager duty burn? I don't know. Maybe. Okay. Maybe. I never really loved pager duty, I have to say. And it's not what's behind it. It's like the whole setup. It's just too complex, I think. I will say…”

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